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bit_user The article said: The Line was previously touted as a "cognitive city" that would stretch 170 kilometers from the Red Sea across Saudi Arabia's desert landscape. Measuring 500 meters in height but just 200 meters in width, Because a single, linear 0.2 x 170 km strip is obviously the most efficient city plan! 🤣 I think somebody should've played more Sim City , and maybe they'd have known a bit better. Of course, the reason it's been scaled back isn't because it's a bad layout, but really pretty much everything else about the project. Reply
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AB53 So, hot computer centers shouldn't be placed in a desert. But no fear, they can move that heat into the Red Sea??? What impact will this warming of the Red Sea have on its beautiful sea life? I sense a simmering catastrophe. Reply
Tanakoi bit_user said: Because a single, linear 0.2 x 170 km strip is obviously the most efficient city plan! 🤣 Linear cities were first proposed well over a century ago, and while bin Salman's proposal is an extreme example, there are many cities and development zones in the US and around the world that are oriented largely upon a single axis. It vastly increases transportation efficiency , at the cost of also increasing transit times . Suum cuique. Reply
Tanakoi AB53 said: So, hot computer centers shouldn't be placed in a desert. But no fear, they can move that heat into the Red Sea??? What impact will this warming of the Red Sea have on its beautiful sea life? I sense a simmering catastrophe. There are 230,000,000,000,000 cubic meters of water in the Red Sea, each and every one of which requires more than 4 million joules of energy to raise a single degree in temperature, even excluding radiative losses while dumping that heat. You do the math. Reply
LordVile Tanakoi said: Linear cities were first proposed well over a century ago, and while bin Salman's proposal is an extreme example, there are many cities and development zones in the US and around the world that are oriented largely upon a single axis. It vastly increases transportation efficiency , at the cost of also increasing transit times . Suum cuique. If you supplement it with good transportation it’s not that bad. Put a monorail down the main axis and it’s solved Reply
bit_user Tanakoi said: proposal is an extreme example, Yeah, that's the point. To get from anywhere to anywhere else, everyone has to choke into the same narrow transportation corridor. From a systems perspective, it exhibits horrible scaling properties. Tanakoi said: there are many cities and development zones in the US and around the world that are oriented largely upon a single axis. It's a very different proposition to have a 2D city with a dominant axis vs. something that's just 200m wide. At least with a real 2D city, you'd have parallel streets in the main direction of travel. If you want to know what it's like to have all traffic choked through a single conduit, I knew a guy who commuted 2 hours each way over the Bosporus. Not fun. Reply
bit_user Tanakoi said: There are 230,000,000,000,000 cubic meters of water in the Red Sea, The overwhelming majority of which are irrelevant, due to obvious constraints on circulation. You need only look to existing examples of coastal power plants to see that thermal pollution is a legitimate issue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_pollution While the are of impact will be near the coast, that's also where it can cause the most damage to ecosystems and fisheries. Reply
bit_user LordVile said: If you supplement it with good transportation it’s not that bad. Put a monorail down the main axis and it’s solved Coincidentally, London also has a population about 9M. Now, what do you suppose would happen if the only way for the entire population of London to get almost anywhere was on a single transit line?? The London Underground has 11 lines, totaling 400 km of track. Its daily ridership is only about 3.23M (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground ). So, roughly triple that, then multiply it by another 2.3x, for condensing the amount of traffic into just 170 km. That works out to about 7x the crowding currently experienced in "the Tube". Does that sound like a city you'd willingly move into? Reply
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