Pemalite Bit of an anti-consumer move. 1) RDNA 2/3 hardware is still being released in APU's/Integrated graphics. 2) RDNA 3 hardware is only 4 years old on the desktop. 3) Disabling paid-for features on 2 year old GPU hardware is a garbage move. Reply
Alvar "Miles" Udell Why is AMD making these changes? To sell GPUs. Like the HD 6000 series that was dropped less than 2 years after release, RX 6000 series is dropped less than 4 years after release. That's insane, but that's also what you get when you go with the "value alternative", and why I stopped supporting them after the Fury series after being exclusively Radeon since the 9600XT. Reply
jeremyj_83 Pemalite said: Bit of an anti-consumer move. 1) RDNA 2/3 hardware is still being released in APU's/Integrated graphics. 2) RDNA 3 hardware is only 4 years old on the desktop. 3) Disabling paid-for features on 2 year old GPU hardware is a garbage move. RDNA 3 is only 3 years old and RDNA 2 is 5 years old. Reply
Alvar "Miles" Udell jeremyj_83 said: RDNA 3 is only 3 years old and RDNA 2 is 5 years old. But the RX 6000 and 5000 series aren't exactly performance slouches, especially at 1920×1080, as shown in TPU's review of the RX 9060 XT, the 6800 XT is still a near 120fps card on average, and the 5700XT, being about half as fast, is still acompetent 60fps area card, especially on less demanding games or with "AI" upscaling from FSR. Meanwhile nVidia is having no problems keeping 7 year old Turing cards updated. https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9060-xt-nitro-oc/images/average-fps-1920-1080.png Reply
jlake3 -Fran- said: The USB thing is reather stupid and really strange… I'll class that as a "oops" moment from the AMD side… Or I hope it is… My laptop has the USB-C port in the back fed by the dGPU (6800M ~ 67000XT at 150W), so losing that port makes me NOT happy. I think this may be specific to the desktop cards? A small number of them had USB-C connectors that were intended for a new VR-focused USB-C alt mode, but development of the standard was discontinued several years ago and it was formally abandoned with no hardware ever released on the headset side. They're probably getting rid of driver support for that alt-mode because there aren't that many models that got the port, and it's actually impossible to use it as intended. Alvar Miles Udell said: But the RX 6000 and 5000 series aren't exactly performance slouches, especially at 1920×1080, as shown in TPU's review of the RX 9060 XT, the 6800 XT is still a near 120fps card on average, and the 5700XT, being about half as fast, is still acompetent 60fps area card, especially on less demanding games or with "AI" upscaling from FSR. Meanwhile nVidia is having no problems keeping 7 year old Turing cards updated. AMD is still providing driver updates to the RX 470/480, which are now 9 years old. They're less frequent and they're largely bugfix releases, but up until this spring I ran a RX 5700 and would benchmark it from time to time, and I haven't measured a statistically significant performance improvement since 23.11.1. These cards being put on the 'maintenence' driver track are likely as optimized as they're ever going to get. I can't say how Turing is doing, but I had a Maxwell card in a tinkering system and benched it here and there as well, and from 497.09 to 551.61 it did not seem to receive any meaningful optimizations or improvements. GPU-bound performance was basically static, while CPU overhead actually got worse. Even though it was getting updates, they weren't really any better than AMD's maintenence-track updates. Reply
ezst036 This is a Windows exclusive. 5000 and 6000 series cards are still well (ongoing) supported on Linux. Reply
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