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vanadiel007 It could also have increase X3D cache and other increased cache levels. Those alone could increase performance, without noticeably impacting thermals. Reply
usertests vanadiel007 said: It could also have increase X3D cache and other increased cache levels. Those alone could increase performance, without noticeably impacting thermals. Extremely unlikely. We've seen a leak that it will turbo to 5.6 GHz instead of 5.2 GHz. That's about the most you should expect, and not terrible for a simple refresh. Reply
ezst036 Admin said: unless we are dealing with an OEM-specific SKU designed for a particular system. If it is an OEM, hopefully it doesn't turn out to be Lenovo. To my knowledge Lenovo locks their AMD CPUs so they can only work in Lenovo systems.(and possibly locked to a specific Lenovo motherboard model number) Reply
Thunder64 vanadiel007 said: It could also have increase X3D cache and other increased cache levels. Those alone could increase performance, without noticeably impacting thermals. L1 is too close to the core to add mor without a significant redesign. L2 is more flexible but no way the put in the effort for a simple refresh. X3D was said to allow up to 4 stacks, but so far all we have seen is one so I doubt that changes. Like usertests said it will likely just be a clock bump. ezst036 said: If it is an OEM, hopefully it doesn't turn out to be Lenovo. To my knowledge Lenovo locks their AMD CPUs so they can only work in Lenovo systems.(and possibly locked to a specific Lenovo motherboard model number) I vaguely remember this story. I thought that the backlash was bad enough that they stopped doing it. It doesn't get more anti-consumer than that. Reply
Elusive Ruse This puts the 900 (12/24) line in more of a silly spot; the 12 core offering hasn’t been relevant since 5900X. With the popularity of the 5800X3D/7800X3D/9800X3D CPUs marking them recognisable by gamers, I can see AMD turning the 10800 and consequently 10800X3D into a single CCD 12 core gaming behemoth with good multicore performance and retire the 900. Reply
ezst036 Thunder64 said: I vaguely remember this story. I thought that the backlash was bad enough that they stopped doing it. It doesn't get more anti-consumer than that. I do hope they have stopped platform locking CPUs, I do not have any further/updated information if they changed policy. Reply
vanadiel007 usertests said: Extremely unlikely. We've seen a leak that it will turbo to 5.6 GHz instead of 5.2 GHz. That's about the most you should expect, and not terrible for a simple refresh. Just remember, they flipped the X3D stack to the bottom of the die starting with the 9800X3D. It would not be far fetched to be able to increase the stack and stack it "higher" much easier, as it now does not affect the distance between the die and housing when you increase the height of the stack. Reply
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