-Fran- "Should we add an extra minute or two to announce this?" "NAH, we're better off adding MORE AI!" "MOAR AI AI AI AI!" Execs at a meeting, probably. Regards. Reply
A Stoner The next push is to span a single super massive cache between both CCDs. Reply
CerianK It has already been logged twice (by the same person) on PassMark. The only two significant improvements are related to Prime Numbers and Physics, which are memory bandwidth dependent, and thus potential proxies for gaming improvements. Reply
SonoraTechnical Yeah.. the CES event for AMD was all about how cozy they are with other large technocrats and data center giants over AI… There was almost nothing for consumers… No Ryzen R9-9950X3D2 announcements… Nothing new on Radeon Video Cards… No Ryzen AI Max+ 495 with it's a128GB either…So, no generational bump for the flagship Ryzen AI Max+ 395. With no treats from Intel on the consumer space… AMD feels no need to innovate here this year… It's all AI and 7000lb boxes for data centers.. Reply
usertests SonoraTechnical said: There was almost nothing for consumers… No Ryzen R9-9950X3D2 announcements… Nothing new on Radeon Video Cards… No Ryzen AI Max+ 495 with it's a128GB either…So, no generational bump for the flagship Ryzen AI Max+ 395. With no treats from Intel on the consumer space… AMD feels no need to innovate here this year… 9950X3D2 wasn't announced, but it's launching soon, as we can see from Alienware. And it's going to do almost nothing for most consumers/gamers anyway. It's best suited for budget workstations or people who want the best of the best. AMD isn't always going to jump nodes to make new products in time for CES. The timing was too early for something generationally better than RDNA4 or Zen 5. A refresh of the 395 isn't needed. The lower cost 392, and especially the 388 with 8 cores, 40 CUs, are needed to make Strix Halo remotely interesting for gaming. Actually, the Strix Halo models with 32 CUs are already pretty good, but it's the pricing that counts. If they aren't leading, and everyone's bleeding from memory prices, they can compete better by lowering the prices of their chips. If AMD deserves criticism for something, it's their mishandling of the FSR4 rollout, with no official support on RDNA2 and especially RDNA3, despite the accidental code release allowing modders to make it work. Software has long been their Achilles' heel. Reply
Stomx -Fran- said: "Should we add an extra minute or two to announce this?" "NAH, we're better off adding MORE AI!" "MOAR AI AI AI AI!" Execs at a meeting, probably. Regards. First, here nothing special to report. Report just 2% improvement in multi-core and even negative in single core at probably even larger TDP? Report zero progress for Ryzen in 5 years where entire multi-core score increase was obtained at the appropriate increase in power consumption ? Report scores of cherry picked EPYC processors on their own reference hardware ? But the AI is totally different matter. It is truly a pipe dream of all big tech CEOs – to reach the AGI with IQ=300+ and fire all their too vain and pesky high tech personnel which only constantly scratch management's self-esteem leaving on payroll only security and janitors 🙂 Isn't this greatest ones in a whole civilization history dream? Reply
-Fran- Stomx said: First, here nothing special to report. Report just 2% improvement in multi-core and even negative in single core at probably even larger TDP? Report zero progress for Ryzen in 5 years where entire multi-core score increase was obtained at the appropriate increase in power consumption ? Report scores of cherry picked EPYC processors on their own reference hardware ? But the AI is totally different matter. It is truly a pipe dream of all big tech CEOs – to reach the AGI with IQ=300+ and fire all their too vain and pesky high tech personnel which only constantly scratch management's self-esteem leaving on payroll only security and janitors 🙂 Isn't this greatest ones in a whole civilization history dream? There's plenty things they could have said for the consumer space: 1- Zen6 progress. 2- AM5 chipsets roadmap. Potential AM6 teaser? Although DDR6 is not even there yet. 3- Potential Strix Halo successor. Announcing cut-down version is just lame. Specially when it's the more exciting thing out of everything they had to show at CES. 4- 9950X3D2 information. 5- RDNA5/UDNA information. 6- APU roadmap. Plenty things they could tell CONSUMERS they're either working on and will release at some point. Regards. Reply
Gururu -Fran- said: There's plenty things they could have said for the consumer space: 1- Zen6 progress. 2- AM5 chipsets roadmap. Potential AM6 teaser? Although DDR6 is not even there yet. 3- Potential Strix Halo successor. Announcing cut-down version is just lame. Specially when it's the more exciting thing out of everything they had to show at CES. 4- 9950X3D2 information. 5- RDNA5/UDNA information. 6- APU roadmap. Plenty things they could tell CONSUMERS they're either working on and will release at some point. Regards. No and the biggest disgrace of all was giving their stage to an administration goon (7:08). Reply
Stomx -Fran- said: There's plenty things they could have said for the consumer space: 1- Zen6 progress. 2- AM5 chipsets roadmap. Potential AM6 teaser? Although DDR6 is not even there yet. 3- Potential Strix Halo successor. Announcing cut-down version is just lame. Specially when it's the more exciting thing out of everything they had to show at CES. 4- 9950X3D2 information. 5- RDNA5/UDNA information. 6- APU roadmap. Plenty things they could tell CONSUMERS they're either working on and will release at some point. Regards. Shows like CES serve different purpose. There salespeople by showing their latest ready to go products implicitly or explicitly divide the market, correct their nearest plans for the year in order to screw the customer as much as possible by avoiding competition with each other Reply
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