(Image credit: DIY-APE on YouTube) (Image credit: DIY-APE on YouTube) There are more specificities that DIY-APE highlights in the video, but the gist of it is that BTF 3.0 is not only a step forward — a significant one at that — but it's also a step in the right direction as it emphasizes backward compatibility, along with support for non-BTF parts with the use of adaptors. It's frankly a genius design if implemented right, but at the moment, it's just a concept.
DIY-APE actually built an entire PC with BTF 3.0 prototype hardware from Colorful and Sego, and it looks slick. It's flawless from the front, with only the most minute wiring visible at the rear, but even that's meticulously routed to appear deliberate. Some details, like how to handle fans in the BTF 3.0 spec, still need to be finalized, and DIY-APE clarifies it's up to the manufacturers' courage to go all-in on this future.
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Amdlova 12v, 5v and 3.3v need to die. They need to change to 36 or 48v Less cables more power. Reply
chaz_music Amdlova said: 12v, 5v and 3.3v need to die. They need to change to 36 or 48v Less cables more power. Great comment. Absolutely. Higher voltage with lower current, and let the MB have local post regulators for other voltages. Although this has issues for high number of drives or SSD (like a NAS system). Even though DIY-APE has good intentions for reducing wire clutter, he is propagating a flawed GPU power concept that the PSU industry has carried forward. With my background in power electronics, I outlined in a previous articles what the issues are: 1. The ever so bad idea on paralleling cables, especially across small connectors. This is a design goof that has been done over, and over, and over, and over … Even the NEC has rules for how much you have to derate cables when you put them in parallel, and thye aren't going through connectors. If you parallel two wires, you derate to 80%. I believe it is derate to 70% for 3 wires in parallel, and 50% rating for 4. The tables can be confusing, because they assume you are using 3 phases. 2. There exist a serious ground loop issue within the PSU and the various power supply paths looping back through the motherboard. For instance, when the GPU 12V power is brought into the GPU through the high power connector, the intended return is back through the same high power connector. But the return can also go back through the PCIe connector to the motherboard, and finally return to the PSU through the ATX connector. This is why most of the burned GPU connectors only have the 12V feed pins burned: the return can find an alternate path through the PCIe connector. If they continue to raise the GPU power with this scheme, we will see more and more motherboards damaged. Here are the sample pictures of just the 12V feed side burned. Notice on all of these the 12V wires are only damaged (by the 4 pin signal connectors): https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/uAVyHuRtHVs8iefTFsupNH-650-80.jpg.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/QTebHt45YSd8Nq8oXu54q8-650-80.png.webp @valthuer (I think this was yours) https://i.postimg.cc/R0ttdFgj/IMG-8616.jpg https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ZdZ6MHbJv6MGnR3U9YyKLS-650-80.jpg.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/4VQ6en2uzoE2Nxk47ungiM-650-80.jpg.webp Here is the prior article where I pointed these out: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-zapped-with-16-pin-power-connector-melting-issue-for-the-first-time-radeon-rx-9070-xt-paired-with-sub-par-psu-gets-singed Reply
Amdlova @chaz_music They can have a new market "pico psu" 48v to other voltages. some pico psus have 400w, If you need plug your older hardware get a smallest dc-dc converter. Everyone will be happy… Reply
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