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vanadiel007 200 years. I think the punishment should always be in line with the crime committed. A murder would carry a shorter term in most cases. Very strange world we live in where we see violations of export restrictions being considered a higher crime level than some other very serious "real" crimes. Reply
coolitic vanadiel007 said: 200 years. I think the punishment should always be in line with the crime committed. A murder would carry a shorter term in most cases. Very strange world we live in where we see violations of export restrictions being considered a higher crime level than some other very serious "real" crimes. It's a result of how certain crimes "scale" with the # of violation and such (linearly, it would seem), which leads to somewhat silly "upper-limits" like this. Though it should be stated that this is simply the legal upper-limit, and is obv not going to be the final sentence. Reply
BFG-9000 Technically, the penalty for money-laundering conspiracy is up to 20 years in federal prison and a fine of up to $500,000 or twice the value of the laundered property, whichever is greater. So the only way the sentence could be up to 200 years for that is if they charged them with 10 separate counts. Treason, an overt act with the intent to betray the nation including giving "aid and comfort" to its enemies, is punishable by up to death or life imprisonment with a minimum of imprisonment for not less than 5 years and a fine of no less than $10,000. Reply
pug_s vanadiel007 said: 200 years. I think the punishment should always be in line with the crime committed. A murder would carry a shorter term in most cases. Very strange world we live in where we see violations of export restrictions being considered a higher crime level than some other very serious "real" crimes. In the US don't sell AI GPU's while you are Chinese. Reply
coolviper777 Such silly prosecution shenanigans. I'll never understand why they would charge someone with 10 counts of violations for 10 exported HPE supercomputers. It's one crime, where you exported 10 computers. Or, even if you do charge with 10 counts, the sentences should ALWAYS be served concurrently. And as others have said, this is a white collar, victimless crime. And yes, now China has these 10 supercomputers, but if you think they don't already the plans, schematics for all these things, you are naive. Murder is not a victimless crime, and yet, often the murderer get 20 years, or even less. And that's the real disparity. Our legal system values money and profit far above individual people. That's why you see such things. Reply
hotaru251 vanadiel007 said: 200 years. I think the punishment should always be in line with the crime committed. this entirely. 200 is stupidly overkill. this is multiple times a mass murder's jail time & most any other criminal act. Reply
USAFRet hotaru251 said: this entirely. 200 is stupidly overkill. this is multiple times a mass murder's jail time & most any other criminal act. And murders often face "life in prison". Or "multiple life" if having done this several times. But, the actual sentence often does not last that long. Just as with these people. "200 years" makes for a good headline. The actual sentence will likely not be that long. Reply
tuggerman vanadiel007 said: 200 years. I think the punishment should always be in line with the crime committed. A murder would carry a shorter term in most cases. Very strange world we live in where we see violations of export restrictions being considered a higher crime level than some other very serious "real" crimes. Well usually I'd agree with you as I think the "prison industrial complex" inflates sentences on a regular basis… But this is offense is treasonous. These GPU's aren't to render 4k videos… There's a reason they are not permitted to be shipped to China. I think they should be shot as life in prison is an economic disaster Reply
tuggerman coolviper777 said: Such silly prosecution shenanigans. I'll never understand why they would charge someone with 10 counts of violations for 10 exported HPE supercomputers. It's one crime, where you exported 10 computers. Or, even if you do charge with 10 counts, the sentences should ALWAYS be served concurrently. And as others have said, this is a white collar, victimless crime. And yes, now China has these 10 supercomputers, but if you think they don't already the plans, schematics for all these things, you are naive. Murder is not a victimless crime, and yet, often the murderer get 20 years, or even less. And that's the real disparity. Our legal system values money and profit far above individual people. That's why you see such things. The punishment for treason is life in prison or death… Selling super computers to an enemy can certainly be called treason these days Reply
cuxzzx tuggerman said: The punishment for treason is life in prison or death… Selling super computers to an enemy can certainly be called treason these days China's not an official enemy of the United States so a conviction of treason is incredibly unlikely and unconstitutional quite frankly. Reply
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