
VizzieTheViz ezst036 said: Wait. Intel extended a socket past "tick" "tock"? That's awesome! It’s not like you can just order these as an upgrade for your pc, but at least the platform is on life support instead of dead and buried. Reply
bit_user VizzieTheViz said: at least the platform is on life support instead of dead and buried. Guaranteed 10-year availability means LGA1700 will be supported for another 10 years! Intel does designate some of their platforms as having long-term availability. Skylake was one of those. Reply
bit_user peterf28 said: DDR4 not supported? Given that it's LGA1700, I'd be surprised if it didn't. But, perhaps they opted not to validate that, considering its intended market segment. I searched for the specs of the 273PQE on ark.intel.com, but it returned 0 hits. That's the normal way to find out what it officially supports. Probably, all of the documentation about it is available only through their partner portal, which requires a NDA to access. In any case, whether or not the CPUs support DDR4 doesn't matter if there aren't any DDR4 motherboards that support the CPUs. So, if someone were serious about running one, the first thing to do would be to look for motherboards which support the new CPU models. Reply
bit_user Here, I found one industrial board that claims support for it. I'm sure there are others, but just to give folks an idea of what sort of board they'd be looking at: https://jetwayipc.com/products/mi23-q670x/ BTW, I have a Jetway Alder Lake-N board, which is why I thought to check and see if they offered support for it. That system has been running stably (24/7) for almost 2 years. But, since it was a BGA processor, the board had its own heatsink/fan, which needed to be replaced to avoid thermal-throttling. As an example of what you give up by going with an industrial board, mine implemented its M.2 slot at only x2 lanes (although the above board runs its M.2 slot at PCIe 4.0 x4) and the BIOS has no options for adjusting memory speed or timings. Idle power also runs kinda high for this CPU, but it's good enough for my purposes. Reply
thestryker bit_user said: Here, I found one industrial board that claims support for it. Given the BIOS date this is likely referring to the RPL rebranded BTL chips released last year. I suspect it's a likely candidate to receive 12P support though. bit_user said: So, even if you can get your hands on one of these CPUs, you'd probably have to use an industrial motherboard that would lack good support for memory OC. Unfortunately I think this is probably right since I went and double checked CPU support for the W680-ACE and it doesn't include any of the "embedded" options. That tells me the likelihood of it getting BTL support is low and that the client H series chipset boards wouldn't either. Reply
VizzieTheViz bit_user said: Guaranteed 10-year availability means LGA1700 will be supported for another 10 years! Intel does designate some of their platforms as having long-term availability. Skylake was one of those. Fair enough but that doesn’t mean it’s much use for me as a consumer. For these embedded platforms it’s nice for sure. Reply
bit_user thestryker said: Given the BIOS date this is likely referring to the RPL rebranded BTL chips released last year. Look closer. The specs say: "Bartlett Lake-S 12P, TDP 125W under limit condition" Reply
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