
Unlike AMD, which offers a simple clock-speed bump with its recent Ryzen 7 9850X3D , Intel doesn't consider a simple clock-speed bump a meaningful enough upgrade to justify a refresh of an existing chip. According to sources close to the matter, the Blue Team doesn't want a "product overlap" with two 24-core chips, so it's been cancelled outright in favor of upgraded Core Ultra 7 and Core Ultra 5 SKUs.
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teeejay94 I truly don't believe they'll be able to translate the laptop gains over to desktop, they've shown time and time again they don't want to make what their customers want to buy they make whatever they want and expect us all to go along with it like some clown show, Intel has always had core fanboys and they rely upon them. 285K was not impressive at all a bunch of E cores packed into a CPU , whoopty doo! Nothing interesting over at Intel, move along!!! Oh what's that AMD? AI? Yeah watch your mouth. Reply
patriotpa The “290K canceled” claim collapses the moment you look at Intel’s actual uplift history and Arrow Lake’s documented margins. 1. Intel’s historical i9 K → KS uplifts (real‑world): 9900KS: ~5% 10900KS (unreleased): ~4–5% uplift existed, but thermals made it pointless 11900KS (unreleased): ~2–3% possible, node was already at the wall 12900KS: ~5–6% 13900KS: ~5–7% 14900KS (unreleased): ~3–4% possible, curve too flat to justify a SKUAcross five generations, KS uplifts sit in the 3–7% band. 2. Arrow Lake’s top‑end uplift is larger than all of those. Documented deltas: 270K → 285K: ~13% 285K → 290K: ~9–11%These are bigger than any KS uplift Intel has ever shipped .Canceling a top bin with a larger margin than previous KS parts makes no sense. 3. 290K is simply the KS‑class bin of 285K. Same right‑tail silicon, same voltage‑limited uplift — just a different label. Intel folded the KS uplift into the 290K name instead of calling it “285KS.” 4. The yield curve confirms the headroom is real. Arrow Lake’s silicon is flat across ~75% of the stack, with a clean right‑tail where the 290K sits. The performance margin is measurable and already validated. 5. The rumor’s “overlap” argument contradicts Intel’s own SKU behavior. Intel has always shipped ~10% top‑bin uplifts. Arrow Lake’s uplift is larger than that. Bottom line: The performance margin for 290K is real, documented, and larger than previous KS generations. Calling it “canceled” ignores the silicon, the yield curve, and Intel’s own historical binning pattern. Quote ReplyReport Edit A Reply
bolweval patriotpa said: The “290K canceled” claim collapses the moment you look at Intel’s actual uplift history and Arrow Lake’s documented margins. 1. Intel’s historical i9 K → KS uplifts (real‑world): 9900KS: ~5% 10900KS (unreleased): ~4–5% uplift existed, but thermals made it pointless 11900KS (unreleased): ~2–3% possible, node was already at the wall 12900KS: ~5–6% 13900KS: ~5–7% 14900KS (unreleased): ~3–4% possible, curve too flat to justify a SKUAcross five generations, KS uplifts sit in the 3–7% band. 2. Arrow Lake’s top‑end uplift is larger than all of those. Documented deltas: 270K → 285K: ~13% 285K → 290K: ~9–11%These are bigger than any KS uplift Intel has ever shipped .Canceling a top bin with a larger margin than previous KS parts makes no sense. 3. 290K is simply the KS‑class bin of 285K. Same right‑tail silicon, same voltage‑limited uplift — just a different label. Intel folded the KS uplift into the 290K name instead of calling it “285KS.” 4. The yield curve confirms the headroom is real. Arrow Lake’s silicon is flat across ~75% of the stack, with a clean right‑tail where the 290K sits. The performance margin is measurable and already validated. 5. The rumor’s “overlap” argument contradicts Intel’s own SKU behavior. Intel has always shipped ~10% top‑bin uplifts. Arrow Lake’s uplift is larger than that. Bottom line: The performance margin for 290K is real, documented, and larger than previous KS generations. Calling it “canceled” ignores the silicon, the yield curve, and Intel’s own historical binning pattern. Quote ReplyReport Edit A the thing you didn’t account for that’s different this time around is the new CEO. Reply
TerryLaze bolweval said: the thing you didn’t account for that’s different this time around is the new CEO. It's not like lip is different than any other CEO and doesn't want to make money…… Of course they might hold back the 290k for a later date to maximize sales on the lower tiers first, but canceling it wouldn't make any sense at all, unless tsmc just isn't capable of allowing it to have enough uplift to make it a viable product. Reply
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