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User of Computers wait for reviews. Geekbench isn't everything for performance. Reply
George³ Much less memory bandwidth but more bandwidth per performance core, because its are only 4 in this Intel, hmm, APU. Reply
bit_user The article fails to compare it to Fire Range, which is the actual top-line AMD laptop processor. Ryzen AI Max gets lots of attention, due to its wide memory bus and updated & enlarged IO Die, but it's actually slower than laptop CPUs like the Ryzen 9 9955HX and 9955HX3D. Reply
Gururu bit_user said: The article fails to compare it to Fire Range, which is the actual top-line AMD laptop processor. Ryzen AI Max gets lots of attention, due to its wide memory bus and updated & enlarged IO Die, but it's actually slower than laptop CPUs like the Ryzen 9 9955HX and 9955HX3D. I know it was an early score as this is, but the 9955HX3D scored 3165/19858 in Mar 2025. Reply
usertests bit_user said: The article fails to compare it to Fire Range, which is the actual top-line AMD laptop processor. Ryzen AI Max gets lots of attention, due to its wide memory bus and updated & enlarged IO Die, but it's actually slower than laptop CPUs like the Ryzen 9 9955HX and 9955HX3D. Seems Intel will get an efficiency win with Panther Lake, no matter what. They'll also win in integrated graphics with 10-12 Xe3 core models. All AMD can do is throw Zen 5 refreshes at it. They could also sell them cheaper, if possible. 9955HX = 5.4 GHz turbo. Ryzen AI Max 395+ = 5.1 GHz turbo. Maybe Zen 6 will be the generation of 6 GHz mobile parts. Reply
bit_user usertests said: Seems Intel will get an efficiency win with Panther Lake, no matter what. Quite likely, outside of things where AVX-512 can give Zen 5 an advantage. Zen 5 can't overcome that node disadvantage, but I am eager to see a comparison on some truly MT workload, like rendering. In something like that, even without AVX-512, Ryzen AI Max will still likely beat Panther Lake. While the GeekBench 6 MT composite score is basically useless, the sub scores are more interesting. There, the Panther Lake listing shows a Ray tracing score of 29748. In contrast, if I find a Ryzen AI Max 395+ entry with roughly the same ST & MT scores as cited in the article, it gets 31878. BTW, I wonder what's their methodology for choosing scores from the comparison systems, because there are definitely higher-scoring Ryzen AI Max 395+ entries. Does Geek Bench's site have some histogram feature for letting you pick a characteristic value, or is it just whatever the author happens to choose? Reply
timsSOFTWARE Local AI will be the next big thing, but it will require the right hardware. The Ryzen AI Max chips are a step in the right direction , but a true "AI PC" is going to have 256+GB of high bandwidth RAM, along with a shared compute type architecture. Along the lines of the Mac Studio, the DGX Station, etc. Obviously it will be a few years before such PCs are affordable for the average person – the DGX Station Blackwell is powerful enough, but too expensive – but the direction seems pretty clear. Reply
bit_user timsSOFTWARE said: a true "AI PC" is going to have 256+GB of high bandwidth RAM, along with a shared compute type architecture. LPDDR-class memory is the only practical way to do this, right now. 256 GB is probably the realistic upper limit. timsSOFTWARE said: Obviously it will be a few years before such PCs are affordable for the average person Maybe we need 3D DRAM, to make it truly affordable. At the very least, we need to see DDR5 pricing return to its long-term trend. Reply
ezst036 It would be nice to see a revitalized Intel. Reply
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