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excalibur1814 Won't be long now! The price will soon hit £250+. You keep paying, the price will continue to rise. Nice mouse though (looks at his MX Master 2S) Reply
Findecanor Interesting … I don't think I feel any need to buy but I would like to try it, first to see if the tech delivers an experience similar to that of conventional mechanical microswitches, and second to see if tweaking it in software could actually give you a noticeable difference. My guess is that the latter will be very subtle. I love this kind of tech though. I have made my own keyboard and mouse firmware (sort of: bus mouse to USB adaptor), and I have worked with haptics. In my view, claims of a switch such as this being fast is mostly marketing hyperbole, however. While you could reduce the actuation distance, and thus reduce the input delay that way, I believe that it is unimportant. Switch delay is something that the human brain adapts to easily. People now play retro games on emulators with modern wireless gamepads — and those setups have much larger input delay compared to vintage hardware, and people are able to adapt to that. Those are a much slower than the benefit of using fast 8KHz polling or magnetic switches A hall effect or TMR switch allows for fast switching both on press and release, whereas a conventional mechanical switch/microswitch could have a delayed release. "Rapid trigger" tech in keyboards is for switching fast between opposing directions (A-D, W-S) when moving a character in a video game, which allows players to dodge incoming shots more easily. When you have "one-shot" events, however, such as triggering a simulated semi-automatic weapon in a FPS, for instance, then a 5 ms delay on the release of a mouse button does not matter in my opinion. And even when the firing is continuous, a simulated high rapid fire machine gun will need at least 40 ms to cycle anyway. Reply
cknobman Hard to believe there is a large enough market to support mice that cost $150+. Its a friggin mouse for crying out loud. Reply
RitiFamily cknobman said: Hard to believe there is a large enough market to support mice that cost $150+. Its a friggin mouse for crying out loud. Maybe if the latency is low enough, in the professional gaming circuit? But I agree… unless you just have $ to burn. Reply
Char7es I would rather have a productiviy mouse with these micorswitches if they are more durable. I would pay more for a mouse I didn't have to replace the swithes every few years when they got the double click issue. Prehaps logitech should look at putting them on the 3d connection mice. Reply
UnforcedERROR cknobman said: Hard to believe there is a large enough market to support mice that cost $150+. Its a friggin mouse for crying out loud. Even the high end mice community finds the prices absurd, and typically recommend cheaper options. Logitech cornered the pro gaming mouse market with the original Superlight, which lead to a ton of brand loyalty by uninformed consumers, as well as laziness on Logitech's part. The Superlight, and its variants, are one of the most commonly used mice in the world, and as such Logitech has bloated their price since people are willing to pay the premium. Razer is similarly in this club, both being considered "premium" options, though Razer has at least somewhat attempted to continue innovating, though with some questionable decisions. RitiFamily said: Maybe if the latency is low enough, in the professional gaming circuit? But I agree… unless you just have $ to burn. The main draw of the Superlight in the pro circuit is that the shape is very universal, so it works for a lot of people. You'd be surprised what people will pay for what they consider "best" performance. Logitech hasn't led this segment in years, but they still price high because people believe they do (mostly because a ton of pros use their mice). This version of the mouse has been used by pros for a while in prototype versions, and that pulls in eager consumers seeing their favorite players using it. Razer was doing this with the Deathadder and Viper as well. In truth most pro gamers don't know much about the technology they use, similar to their fans. Char7es said: I would rather have a productiviy mouse with these micorswitches if they are more durable. I would pay more for a mouse I didn't have to replace the swithes every few years when they got the double click issue. Prehaps logitech should look at putting them on the 3d connection mice. We already have optical switches, which have none of the durability shortcomings of mechanical. This is just a way for Logitech to tout a new technology to set them apart from everyone else using opticals. In practice I suspect it's not much different in terms of performance, though I could be wrong as I haven't used them (and likely never will(Logitech's solution is decidedly quieter though)). Unfortunately productivity mice are further back on urgency for updates, and Logitech have been notoriously complacent with product iteration in the past few years, so I wouldn't expect to see these in those anytime soon. I could be wrong, but I suspect I'm not. Reply
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