bit_user LordVile said: Just get rid of the exclusivity and allow it to run on macs ffs It's actually a lot of work to support a platform. Apple already supports windows in a VM. They have no real incentive to do the work to support natively running Windows on their hardware, nor does Microsoft have the incentive and knowledge to do it on their own. Reply
ejolson I was definitely rooting for Qualcomm when it came to the SoftBank lawsuit that tried to take away their architectural license and block them from using designs related to the Nuvia acquisition. However, I'm disappointed by the terminology in which Qualcomm Prime cores are built for performance and Qualcomm Performance cores designed for efficiency. I can not think of any plausible reason for such confusing terminology that reflects well on Qualcomm. More important from my point of view is how important Linux is for the success of non-x86 architectures and how these Qualcomm-based systems, from what I understand, run only Microsoft Windows. How is that going to work out? Gaming is a nonstarter on ARM while power savings, not to mention performance, are lost to x86 emulation. Reply
LordVile bit_user said: It's actually a lot of work to support a platform. Apple already supports windows in a VM. They have no real incentive to do the work to support natively running Windows on their hardware, nor does Microsoft have the incentive and knowledge to do it on their own. Issue is that it’s currently exclusive to Qualcomm which means it can’t be done even if Apple wanted to. Another reason to hate Qualcomm though after their lying, deceptive advertising and patent trolling there’s no real need for additional reasons. Reply
bit_user ejolson said: I'm disappointed by the terminology in which Qualcomm Prime cores are built for performance and Qualcomm Performance cores designed for efficiency. I can not think of any plausible reason for such confusing terminology that reflects well on Qualcomm. Yeah, not great naming. Still, not the worst example I can think of, regarding confusing or misleading names. ejolson said: More important from my point of view is how important Linux is for the success of non-x86 architectures and how these Qualcomm-based systems, from what I understand, run only Microsoft Windows. I have Linux running on a Lenovo IdeaPad 5 with a Snapdragon X1P-42-100. It wasn't as easy as installing Linux on a typical x86 machine, but it works. There are a few issues that I'm hoping will get sorted out over the next year or so. ejolson said: Gaming is a nonstarter on ARM while power savings, not to mention performance, are lost to x86 emulation. Nintendo Switch & Switch 2 are ARM-based, as is basically every phone. Reply
bit_user LordVile said: Issue is that it’s currently exclusive to Qualcomm which means it can’t be done even if Apple wanted to. The exclusivity agreement was rumored to have lapsed last year. That's why Nvidia + MediaTek were going to launch the N1X, but then they ran into some unspecified problems and delayed it until 2026. We'll hopefully get an announcement on that, sometime this week. Also, AMD's Soundwave. LordVile said: Another reason to hate Qualcomm though after their lying, deceptive advertising and patent trolling there’s no real need for additional reasons. Yeah, I don't love 'em. They're not the worst company out there, but far from the best. Reply
LordVile bit_user said: The exclusivity agreement was rumored to have lapsed last year. That's why Nvidia + MediaTek were going to launch the N1X, but then they ran into some unspecified problems and delayed it until 2026. Maybe it was extended bit_user said: We'll hopefully get an announcement on that, sometime this week. Also, AMD's Soundwave. Yeah, I don't love 'em. They're not the worst company out there, but far from the best. They’re much closer to worst, they hold up basically all of mobile chip development with their patent trolling, impede newcomers from entering the market and lie about their own products by comparing performance using their high power chips vs a competitors low performance models and efficiency using their low power vs a competitors high. Like they started putting one ultra high performance core that’s can’t boost much longer than a benchmark in their mobile chips to say they compete with Apple on single threaded performance. Though I think they’ve stopped that now Reply
bit_user LordVile said: Maybe it was extended I highly doubt it. Microsoft wants more hardware vendors to support Windows/ARM. They don't have any reason to want Qualcomm to keep a lock on it. That's already gone on for way too long. Reply
bit_user Anyone curious about how the new Snapdragon X2 cores compare, at a microarchitecture level, should check out the piece Chips & Cheese did on the subject, a couple months ago: https://chipsandcheese.com/p/qualcomms-snapdragon-x2-elite Note that the article contains no independent performance testing. The only performance info it has are Qualcomm's own claims. Reply
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