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Notton DDR6 for desktop/consumer isn't coming until 2028 at the earliest, so 2029 for AM5 to AM6 transition seems about right. Reply
spongiemaster The change in dates means nothing and doesn't imply additional generations. AMD still claims to be supporting AM4 because they are releasing bottom of the barrel binned CPU's that no one is interested in and despite the fact the last new Zen generation for it was released way back in 2020. Reply
thestryker If anything is to be assumed based on AMD's listing 2029 without a + it's that Zen 6, and maybe some sort of refresh, is it for AM5. It seems highly unlikely to me that they would launch a new architecture on the platform and have it also be the end. Reply
Xajel So this confirmation almost indirectly semiconfirmed that Zen 7 might be coming to AM5. But it also hints that AM6/DDR6 might come later than expected, or at least will be expensive at launch to the point they'll keep AM5/DDR5 a little longer as it becomes a budget options compared to AM6/DDR6, just like how they did with AM4>AM5 transition. Reply
wakuwaku spongiemaster said: The change in dates means nothing and doesn't imply additional generations. AMD still claims to be supporting AM4 because they are releasing bottom of the barrel binned CPU's that no one is interested in and despite the fact the last new Zen generation for it was released way back in 2020. Yes it does. You need to stop using Tom's as your only source of tech news considering their decline in quality and reckless use of AI to spread misinformation, or lack of information in this case. ALWAYS consume multiple sources of the same news, or better still, drop those that consistently and repeatedly give you wrong or misleading news without any signs of improvements like Toms. Here is a HUB video timestamp that shows an AMD slide that Specifically says new architectures: eMZwqjvu2Gg:477 View: https://youtu.be/eMZwqjvu2Gg?t=477 Reply
bit_user spongiemaster said: The change in dates means nothing and doesn't imply additional generations. AMD still claims to be supporting AM4 because they are releasing bottom of the barrel binned CPU's that no one is interested in Yeah, but wouldn't it be interesting , if they made a new AM4 I/O die that would interface with Zen 4 and Zen 5 CCDs? Wouldn't make a lot of sense to run more than about 8 or 12 cores on DDR4, but it would unlock more performance for folks either still on AM4 boards or sticking with DDR4 for other reasons. On the flipside, we've heard most AM4 boards' BIOS is running out of room to include support for new CPU models and a lot of manufactures have dropped support for AM4 boards, by now. So, actually getting new CPU models working on enough of those boards that people can just buy one and expect it to work is probably a big reason why it won't happen. spongiemaster said: and despite the fact the last new Zen generation for it was released way back in 2020. 5800X3D launched in April 2022. wakuwaku said: You need to stop using Tom's as your only source of tech news considering their decline in quality and reckless use of AI to spread misinformation, or lack of information in this case. ALWAYS consume multiple sources of the same news, or better still, drop those that consistently and repeatedly give you wrong or misleading news without any signs of improvements like Toms. Eh, I'll believe it when I see it. To release new stuff for AM4 would probably mean going back to the old "+" naming. So, new CPUs might only work on AM4+ boards. Anything else would run into all kinds of BIOS update headaches, like I mentioned above. Also, anything that's limited to DDR4 is going to have poor multi-core scaling. So, it really will be something targeted towards the lower end of the market. Reply
bit_user Xajel said: it also hints that AM6/DDR6 might come later than expected, That's almost certainly due to DDR6 arriving too late to coincide with Zen 7. Xajel said: or at least will be expensive at launch to the point they'll keep AM5/DDR5 a little longer as it becomes a budget options compared to AM6/DDR6, just like how they did with AM4>AM5 transition. I fully expect this, especially if AM6 is a DDR6-only platform. I'm beginning to think DDR6 might be the end of the road for regular DDR. After that, even desktop CPUs could switch over to LPDDR. Reply
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