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usertests cackys said: Who is Embody? Did somebody confuse Embark Studios with this? https://embody.co/blogs/gaming-with-immerse/immerse-gaming-arc-raiders-sound-settings Second result for "Embody arc raiders". First is this article. Reply
hotaru251 so basically if you are too good you will be likely falsely banned for life. Reply
TheyStoppedit Any tools implemented to flawlessly 100% ban cheaters will also ban false positives. As soon as you start banning false positives, the lawsuits will begin for obvious reasons. This nearly happened with Black Ops Cold War (I think it was). You will end up banning cheaters who find loopholes in the game (not to be confused with glitches/mods/hacks/injected DLLs). There are some people who are a little bit craftly and like to think outside about the box, and improve a bit. I'll pick on myself as example. When you have 35 years of gaming experience here…. you learn how to…. how shall I put this……… do things that you shouldn't be able to do. I can't count how many times I've done something in a game…. and after I was like… Lol… ya…. you're not supposed to be able to do that. But…. what I did involved no glitches, no mods, no hacks, no injected DLLs, none of that. I was playing the game 100% complete stock with no add-ons or mods of any kind. I knew I wasn't supposed to be able to do that, but it was done using mechanics that the developer put into the game. To put it in layman's terms: the guardrails were 1/16th of an inch too low. How's that? I actually did something like this in Mario Kart World the other day, in freeroam on a P-Switch challenge. I knew how the game clearly intended for it to be done but I looked around the area and was like….. hmmmmm…. a few calculations here and there…. nail down the timing and voila ! No glitches/mods/hacks involved. I just…. got creative. So am I going to get banned for just…. playing the game? and being creative? Also, if you ban the game license and not just the account, then someone else who plays the game using that license, and plays legitimately can't play anymore. That's an instant false positive right now. The question is: How do you ban cheaters? only cheaters? ALL cheaters? and no false positives. The answer: You don't. You can't. It's not possible. Anything that can be detected can be spoofed. Reply
bigdragon No, stop! We do not even agree on what the definition of cheating is anymore! Someone who is using an aimbot is a lot different from someone giving themselves in-game currency or gaining access to progression-gated content without having met the prerequisites. I'll never forgive Rockstar for banning me from GTA Online just for being on the same server as people handing out cash like candy during New Years celebrations a long time ago. I did nothing wrong, but they accused me of cheating and provided zero recourse. Most recently, there's been a ton of drama over Helldivers 2 and Arrowhead/Sony failing to address the technical debt in their game. Mods have fixed many issues and added far more features to the game, but nobody can agree where the line between mod and cheat is — just forcing the collision meshes to line up with enemy corpses is considered a cheat and not a bug fix by some. I don't trust the gaming industry to deploy AI anti-cheat in a way that doesn't harm the performance of games and my systems. Furthermore, I think the idea of permanent bans is no longer appropriate given how often they've been misapplied and abused by studios. Every game should implement a "cheater's realm" especially if they intend to leverage AI — the thing famous for hallucinating and pulling non-deterministic answers out of thin air. Reply
derekullo Ya'll not going to like this. The solution is the monthly subscription model. This should lead to better content … the developer has more money. And also a less heavy handed approach to banning since that would cut off the money stream. This also adds more weight to the cheater knowing they have invested $5-$10 a month for multiple months. Some would be cheaters may not even attempt to play the game if there is a paywall. Reply
hotaru251 TheyStoppedit said: As soon as you start banning false positives, the lawsuits will begin for obvious reasons. nope. Nearly every online game has a "you can have your license revoked for any reason at any time" clause. its so if they do ban you they cant be punished because it was in the terms. Reply
SkyBill40 hotaru251 said: nope. Nearly every online game has a "you can have your license revoked for any reason at any time" clause. its so if they do ban you they cant be punished because it was in the terms. Not to mention that people being litigious over a game is pretty asinine. Reply
hotaru251 SkyBill40 said: Not to mention that people being litigious over a game is pretty asinine. depends. litigation over them taking what you paid for is fair game. people got too comfy not owning crap and its effecting those of us that do care. Reply
TheyStoppedit hotaru251 said: nope. Nearly every online game has a "you can have your license revoked for any reason at any time" clause. its so if they do ban you they cant be punished because it was in the terms. Ya, that would never fly in a court of law Me: Buys game Game publisher 21.7 seconds later: Revokes Me: But I wasn't cheating Game publisher: "clause" There's a term for this, it's called: theft, and in most developed countries, theft is illegal. No sane judge in a court of law would allow this based on "you agreed". "Oh, but no publisher would ever do this" Whether or not they would do it is irrelevant. It would never fly in a court of law because it's theft. They would be stealing money. You don't get to take someone else's money without a damn good reason, and the fine print that no one reads would not absolve you of this obligation Reply
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