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cp0x No surprises here: As in countless other industries, China has been recruiting heavily in this space from ASML and other companies, and obtaining proprietary information using other means, to attempt to catch up. Reply
alrighty_then I've learned not to believe any claims coming out of China. Western media will declare China creates the most solar panels – and they PRODUCE many – but they happen to create higher carbon emissions than anyone and build more coal plants than anyone. Obviously they steal IP (F-35 anyone?), released COVID on the world and are led by a scummy repressive government. Bleh. Reply
bimo_tok alrighty_then said: I've learned not to believe any claims coming out of China. Western media will declare China creates the most solar panels – and they PRODUCE many – but they happen to create higher carbon emissions than anyone and build more coal plants than anyone. Obviously they steal IP (F-35 anyone?), released COVID on the world and are led by a scummy repressive government. Bleh. I've learned to not believe any news about politics coming out from western media. Also there are anti China propaganda. Even when many America youtubers visit China, many America still denied the facts. Reply
bimo_tok cp0x said: No surprises here: As in countless other industries, China has been recruiting heavily in this space from ASML and other companies, and obtaining proprietary information using other means, to attempt to catch up. Taiwan investigated previous TSMC employee who currently worked for Intel with accusation to steal secret information from TSMC. Industrial spy, hijacked employees are common, not only in China. Anti China propaganda detected. Reply
nookoool cp0x said: No surprises here: As in countless other industries, China has been recruiting heavily in this space from ASML and other companies, and obtaining proprietary information using other means, to attempt to catch up. Okay, thats literally the behavior of every human on earth and how every new business is started Reply
cp0x bimo_tok said: Taiwan investigated previous TSMC employee who currently worked for Intel with accusation to steal secret information from TSMC. Industrial spy, hijacked employees are common, not only in China. Anti China propaganda detected. It's the Internet, so sure, accuse me of whatever. I happen to be American, but spent time in China, and had a great team there. I love China, both for how amazing a place it is (like my own country), but also despite of the flaws I see there. It's so much like the USA in both its good and bad sides. You do know how the USA got big industrially? By stealing IP from the UK, for example. China and the USA will some day hopefully be great friends and real international leaders — not attempting to take from others, but helping the world stay sustainable and peaceful. It may be hard to imagine today, but there are some truly brilliant and good and kind people in both of these countries, and as powerful as they are, we need them both to be good leaders. Reply
cp0x alrighty_then said: I've learned not to believe any claims coming out of China. Western media will declare China creates the most solar panels – and they PRODUCE many – but they happen to create higher carbon emissions than anyone and build more coal plants than anyone. Obviously they steal IP (F-35 anyone?), released COVID on the world and are led by a scummy repressive government. Bleh. Your accusations are kind of half correct, but miss most of the truth. Chinese government is generally not "repressive" in the sense that westerners use the term. There are exceptions, e.g. for some nutty religious groups like Falun Gong, but generally the Chinese government seeks internal stability and a strong balance of trade. bimo_tok said: Taiwan investigated previous TSMC employee who currently worked for Intel with accusation to steal secret information from TSMC. Industrial spy, hijacked employees are common, not only in China. Anti China propaganda detected. It's not "Anti China propaganda". You're just feeling too defensive. China does take IP any way it can find a way to take it. Pretending otherwise is silly. And as China becomes a leader in different areas, China tries to defend its own IP. We've seen the same pattern before in different countries, including the USA. nookoool said: Okay, thats literally the behavior of every human on earth and how every new business is started That's an exaggeration. Not every new business is started by stealing confidential information. But yes, some are. Hopefully the end result of all of this is good for the world. We need open markets, and good, healthy competition. We want innovation, and we want innovators to thrive from their work. We also don't want any one country to become so dominant that it can hurt others with its power. (I'm not going to give any examples, but they are out there if you want to look for them. This is a technical forum, so I don't want to talk politics.) Countries that try to use their power to kill competition are bad for everyone — including themselves. Study "Ricardian economics" if you want to learn more. Reply
usertests alrighty_then said: Western media will declare China creates the most solar panels – and they PRODUCE many – but they happen to create higher carbon emissions than anyone and build more coal plants than anyone. What do their emissions have to do with false claims? Are they claiming to be 100% green and solar powered? China will pollute and "steal" IP as long as there are minimal consequences for doing so. But they can recognize that domestic innovation needs to occur, or that they don't want to choke their own cities with smog. Having a bunch of coal power plants was helpful as a hedge against potential oil scarcity (as was >1-2 billion barrels in reserves). Reply
Roy2001 fake news, stealing IP, are pollutuion, over capacity, forced labor, government backed, what else? Reply
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