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edzieba That's great! Having a peripheral device's operation tied to a shop application is unacceptable, no matter which corporation owns the shop. Reply
mcmx77 edzieba said: That's great! Having a peripheral device's operation tied to a shop application is unacceptable, no matter which corporation owns the shop. They made it, they get to choose what to do with it. Reply
sarge1892 edzieba said: That's great! Having a peripheral device's operation tied to a shop application is unacceptable, no matter which corporation owns the shop. The reason it's not compatible is steam input is not some random controller spec it's specifically built for pc games and calls on hooks direct into the game that only steam input can make use of Xinput meanwhile from ms only sends forward controller input and leaves the game to handle what that does Steam input sends game controll instructions and it manages how the controller hooks into those Finally whilst cool a steam controller on any other system is kinda useless all of the custom inputs like touchpads and capacitive sensors are not supported by anything It's cool it can be done but this wasn't like Sony making up a custom spec just to be proprietary Valve created the spec because it fundamentally works different than how every other controller ever works Reply
thestryker sarge1892 said: Valve created the spec because it fundamentally works different than how every other controller ever works You wrote an awful lot of words while ignoring a very simple fact: Literally nothing stopped Valve from implementing an Xinput fallback mode other than choosing not to. This choice doesn't benefit anyone except for Valve. Reply
edzieba sarge1892 said: The reason it's not compatible is steam input is not some random controller spec it's specifically built for pc games and calls on hooks direct into the game that only steam input can make use of That makes it worse, not better. Tying something as fundamental as input handling to a shop is utterly ludicrous. USB HID is universal (and already supports the pedestrian selection of input devices on the Steam Controller). DirectInput is universal under Windows (albeit legacy), and OpenXR is universal across OSes, and its input API can be implemented independently of any display output – and if you for some reason want to configure input mapping in some third application rather than in game you can do that with OpenXR. If Valve chose to implement SteamInput in addition to one of the many choices of open standard, that would be one thing. But instead they choose to be proprietary-only. Reply
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