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Jabberwocky79 I'm intrigued. After building with a 12900-K, I was disappointed to see Intel abandon the 1700 socket so quickly, thus narrowing my upgrade choice significantly. I'd definitely be down for a Raptor Lake refresh. Reply
Zaranthos It's one thing to do a refresh and actually improve technology, it's entirely another thing to just revive old crap and sell it at Walmart so knowledgeable customers buy your old crap. I say this with a dash of sarcasm but I personally look at all the old hardware lines being revived and think to myself I don't want old crap. I don't want to pay absurdly high prices either, but I'm not buying old tech just because new tech costs too much, I'm just not buying at all, or I buy less new stuff. Reply
PEnns The person who came up with the "refresh" moniker should be fired for lack of imagination. Just like whoever came up with the stupid "Pro" suffix for whatever newer version of software or hardware. You know, "Pro" as in "Professional," because the previous version was for amateurs and non-professionals obviously! Reply
bit_user Jabberwocky79 said: I'd definitely be down for a Raptor Lake refresh. Gen 14 was Raptor Lake Refresh. The way Intel uses the term "Refresh" is to mean re-releasing the same silicon. Calling this "Raptor Lake Next" implies that it's more than a refresh. However, Intel has previously changed codenames at the drop of a hat. So, the fact that it's even being called some form of "Raptor Lake" is not a good sign. Also, I have difficulty believing that they're actually going to make any silicon-level changes, at this point. Reply
bit_user PEnns said: The person who came up with the "refresh" moniker should be fired for lack of imagination. My main issue with it is that it actually sounds like a bigger deal than it is. PEnns said: Just like whoever came up with the stupid "Pro" suffix for whatever newer version of software or hardware. You know "Pro" as in "Professional," because the previous version was for amateurs and non-professionals obviously! Totally agree. BTW, the Pentium Pro might've influenced this trend. It launched way back in 1995. There was actually a rationale behind its naming, where Intel found that it performed poorly on legacy 16-bit code, such as games. So, they decided to pitch it towards professional users running 32-bit apps, hence the name. The Pentium MMX would be their short-term successor for DOS gamers. Finally, the Pentium 2 emerged as a proper successor for both lineages. Reply
dion_ A missed opportunity to name it: Raptor Lake Redux Raptor Lake: Silicon of the Year Edition Raptor Lake: Director's Cut (now with four more previously excluded P-cores) Reply
usertests There's no downside to having more chips on the LGA 1700 socket, since it should cause prices to drop. Either soon or in the very long run. Expectations for this should be kept low, but if Intel wants to make it interesting, they could fix the degradation issue at the hardware level, and give it a new name so it's not confused with existing Raptor Lake CPUs. How about 15000-series? If it's another 8P + 16E die, they should bin SKUs to 6P + 12E like the 250K instead of going directly to 6P + 8E. We've heard that Intel 7 production is being focused on server/industrial chips to the detriment of consumer-oriented product families, so that could be another strike against this. Reply
YSCCC Ok, so my Z690 mobo can get another drop in after the 14900k if it decided to go kaboom eventually… Reply
edzieba usertests said: Expectations for this should be kept low, but if Intel wants to make it interesting, they could fix the degradation issue at the hardware level, and give it a new name so it's not confused with existing Raptor Lake CPUs. How about 15000-series? If it's another 8P + 16E die, they should bin SKUs to 6P + 12E like the 250K instead of going directly to 6P + 8E. That's basically what I'd expect this to be. Sitting on a 12600k with 64GB DDR4, even a sidegrade to a newer CPU and motherboard (Intel or AMD) would be exorbitantly expensive, and a side-grade to AM4 would be pretty pointless*. A drop-in CPU replacement would be a viable upgrade path. * As well as being no faster CPU-wise compared to an LGA1700 CPU upgrade (and without mobo cost), it would also mean dealing with the atrociously bad Asmedia chip masquerading as a southbridge. Reply
bit_user edzieba said: Sitting on a 12600k with 64GB DDR4, … A drop-in CPU replacement would be a viable upgrade path. I went from i5-12600 -> i5-14600K. Beware that you'll likely need a better CPU cooler, if you want to avoid thermal throttling. Raptor Lake runs at slightly lower voltages, but burns a few more Watts at idle. I guess that's probably due to the larger die and the higher ring bus frequency. Reply
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