Intel’s next-gen Nova Lake will finally tackle AMD’s Ryzen X3D, but only with pricey ‘K’ models — 144MB Big Last Level Cache response to 3D V-Cache will only co

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Intel's next-gen Nova Lake will finally tackle AMD's Ryzen X3D, but only with pricey 'K' models — 144MB Big Last Level Cache response to 3D V-Cache will only co

TerryLaze Admin said: Intel has long lacked a true rival to AMD's X3D chips that feature heaps of L3 cache, which helps boost performance in games. It seems like that is all set to change with Nova Lake, set to debut next year, reportedly featuring 144 MB of bLLC (Big Last Level Cache) that will see it race past even AMD's current-gen 3D V-Cache flagships. Intel's next-gen Nova Lake will finally tackle AMD's Ryzen X3D, but only with pricey 'K' models — 144MB Big Last Level Cache response to 3D V-Cache… : Read more Extreme doubt…unless priced at $1200…. an 8P/16E (4lp) core CPU with a big cache will already be faster enough to sell extremely well. Nova Lake supposedly tops out at 52 cores, with the flagship SKU carrying 16 P-cores, 32 E-cores, and 4 LP-E cores, split across two 28-core compute tiles Reply

usertests It's not exactly a crazy revelation, it's a premium product. TerryLaze said: Extreme doubt…unless priced at $1200…. an 8P/16E (4lp) core CPU with a big cache will already be faster enough to sell extremely well. The 144 MiB figure is for one bLLC tile. Two of them would be 288 MiB. There have been leaks suggesting dual-bLLC: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-dual-x3d-and-intel-nova-lake-dual-bllc-leaks-surface-almost-simultaneouslyhttps://www.tweaktown.com/news/106923/intel-nova-lake-cpu-full-leak-52-cores-bllc-is-intels-answer-to-x3d-cache-lga-1954-socket/index.html Prior to those leaks, we had a leak of two single-bLLC SKUs: 8P/16E and 8P/12E: https://www.hwcooling.net/en/bllc-in-nova-lake-cpus-intels-answer-to-amd-x3d-processors/ Those two are the most likely to actually exist IMO. Reply

TerryLaze usertests said: The 144 MiB figure is for one bLLC tile. Two of them would be 288 MiB. There have been leaks suggesting dual-bLLC: Yeah, that's why the article says (that the rumor says) that only an core 5 will have the cache because it would only have one compute tile. Which is even crazier, intel would only put new tech on the highest tier. So far, leaks suggest that only the midrange 8P+16E/12E-core SKUs (Core Ultra 5) will get the bLLC upgrade, since they'll use a single compute tile. Reply

usertests TerryLaze said: Yeah, that's why the article says (that the rumor says) that only an core 5 will have the cache because it would only have one compute tile. Which is even crazier, intel would only put new tech on the highest tier. I see it as copying the 9800X3D strategy, and it may have similar pricing ($500). There's no game that needs more than 8P+16E cores. And the second tile might introduce complications (or not, who knows). But 7800X3D/9800X3D are the smash hits for AMD, and that's what single-tile bLLC would be directly competing with (or a 12-core single CCD Zen 6 version). They can make something with 16P+32E + single or dual bLLC… but honestly, maybe they shouldn't. It would be high cost, low volume, definitely approaching $1000 (single-bLLC) or even $1200 (dual-bLLC) like you say. Reply

TerryLaze usertests said: I see it as copying the 9800X3D strategy, and it may have similar pricing ($500). There's no game that needs more than 8P+16E cores. And the second tile might introduce complications (or not, who knows). But 7800X3D/9800X3D are the smash hits for AMD, and that's what single-tile bLLC would be directly competing with (or a 12-core single CCD Zen 6 version). The AMD x3d strategy hurts amd sales a lot because everybody only wants these mid priced x3d CPUs, there is no reason to copy a bad strategy. The only reason AMD has the 8core x3d CPUs (ccds) is because that's what the consoles have so that's what they have. Having the big cache on only one 8p/16e core9 cpu will be enough to upsell plenty of people into buying it and going to more cores on a desktop would make no sense at all. Maybe, big maybe, a 8p/32e core if that's somehow possible. Reply

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