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usertests One big tradeoff with Project Zenith, though, is that it’s only available on expensive devices, at least for the moment. The AMD Ryzen AI Halo, with its AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 processor, 128GB LPDDR5x-8000 RAM, 2TB SSD, and integrated Radeon 8060S graphics, costs $3,999.99 on Micro Center. Even if Microsoft eventually makes Project Zenith available for separate purchase and installable on other mini-PCs, the 64 GB+ unified memory requirement will be a major roadblock, especially with skyrocketing RAM prices driven by the AI boom. Who pays for Windows? I'm sure it will be hacked to work on any x86 device with any amount of RAM very quickly. But the real question is if you would want to. It might be usable with 32 GB, which some Strix Halo devices ship with, but if the point is running 30B models, you might want to follow the recommendation. The minimum viable unified memory for running 30B parameter LLMs locally in 2026 is 32GB for standard usage, though 64GB is recommended for stable performance with larger context windows. While 16GB systems can technically run heavily quantized (Q2/Q3) 30B models, performance is significantly degraded. 32GB allows for smoother operation of 4-bit quantized (Q4_K_M) models, which require approximately 18–20GB of memory for weights plus overhead. To support practical context lengths (e.g., 8K+ tokens) without severe swapping or latency, 64GB of unified memory is considered the ideal baseline for 30B-class models. Reply
USAFRet usertests said: Who pays for Windows? If this and all of its additions is profitable, paying for it is a no brainer. Same with an architect paying for AutoCad. Or a professional photog paying for Photoshop/Lightroom. etc, etc, etc. If a tool brings you more profit/income than some other tool, paying for it is not a hard pill to swallow. Reply
abufrejoval USAFRet said: If this and all of its additions is profitable, paying for it is a no brainer. I guess the question he is raising is if this will be indeed a separately licensed edition of Windows or simply another base ISO which will run with enterprise or pro keys. If M$ is trying to cash in on a "high-tier" Windows, I sure hope it backfires on them like a good ole AI bubble bursting: it's one thing to be reactive as a base OS provider, it's quite another using any excuse to suck a little extra. USAFRet said: Same with an architect paying for AutoCad. Or a professional photog paying for Photoshop/Lightroom. etc, etc, etc. If a tool brings you more profit/income than some other tool, paying for it is not a hard pill to swallow. Here it's M$ pretty much creating a bundle of freeware, so no, not in the same ballpark. Reply
derekullo abufrejoval said: I guess the question he is raising is if this will be indeed a separately licensed edition of Windows or simply another base ISO which will run with enterprise or pro keys. If M$ is trying to cash in on a "high-tier" Windows, I sure hope it backfires on them like a good ole AI bubble bursting: it's one thing to be reactive as a base OS provider, it's quite another using any excuse to suck a little extra. Here it's M$ pretty much creating a bundle of freeware, so no, not in the same ballpark. If the AI bubble bursts, Microsoft's pain isn't going to come from lackluster sales of Windows 11 Pro AI Ultimate Edition. Reply
Bigshrimp Windows AI Edition. The One AI OS that rules them all. Reply
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