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usertests Some good news for once. Although I doubt almost anyone here will be using one within the next few years. Much like the B580, pairing it with 12 GB could help it punch above its weight. Reply
Gururu usertests said: Some good news for once. Although I doubt almost anyone here will be using one within the next few years. Much like the B580, pairing it with 12 GB could help it punch above its weight. This smells like a big reason Intel is reducing its dGPU offerings, which have undoubtedly target low-mid tier segment. No one will be able to compete with China in dominant market segment if they have 5060 level GPUs flooding market at Chinese prices. Maybe the US will ban them… Reply
King_V Gururu said: This smells like a big reason Intel is reducing its dGPU offerings, which have undoubtedly target low-mid tier segment. No one will be able to compete with China in dominant market segment if they have 5060 level GPUs flooding market at Chinese prices. Maybe the US will ban them… But from the article: The LX 7100, Lisuan Tech's first and only gaming product so far, has shown some evidence of delivering a performance close to Nvidia's last-generation GeForce RTX 4060 graphics card. How did you translate "performance close to the RTX 4060" to being RTX 5060 level, given that the RTX 5060 is approximately 20% faster than the RTX 4060? Reply
Gururu King_V said: But from the article: How did you translate "performance close to the RTX 4060" to being RTX 5060 level, given that the RTX 5060 is approximately 20% faster than the RTX 4060? Because there is nowhere to go but up! They will have 5070 worthy cards by 2028 no doubt. Reply
bit_user I wish the article cited anything about their microarchitecture. Is this one of the GPU makers using Imagination Technologies' IP? It's not an idle point, because whether or not it is would suggest whether the others might be soon to follow. Reply
bit_user Gururu said: This smells like a big reason Intel is reducing its dGPU offerings, which have undoubtedly target low-mid tier segment. I think the prospect of Chinese GPUs must be kicking around in the backs of their minds, but doubt it had any bearing on their decision to cancel the consumer launch of Big Battlemage, for instance. A theoretical B770 would undoubtedly be much faster than any of these Lisuan GPUs and would probably remain so, for the rest of its product life. I think the reason has far more to do with how far behind they are from AMD and Nvidia, as well as GDDR memory pricing. Those two factors just make it difficult for Intel to find a niche where it offers a compelling value. Gururu said: Because there is nowhere to go but up! They will have 5070 worthy cards by 2028 no doubt. Such predictions were made before, and have not played out. I think it's difficult to say exactly when they will even be able to offer a competitive value at any tier, much less when they'll be able to compete at that level. Recent history shows that it's a big hill to climb. I would caution against being too optimistic. Reply
TCA_ChinChin bit_user said: I wish the article cited anything about their microarchitecture. Is this one of the GPU makers using Imagination Technologies' IP? It's not an idle point, because whether or not it is would suggest whether the others might be soon to follow. I don't think so, simply because Tom's has had previous articles about china based GPU makers using Imagination graphics. Lisuan uses their own "TrueGPU" architecture based on a quick google search and I didn't find any claims that this Imagination IP. Lisuan itself was founded by ex-S3 employees though, according to wikipedia. Reply
PEnns In this gamers' and users' GPU ocean of gloom and bad news, could one actually be seeing a possible ray of hope? I shall look forward to a day, hopefully soon, when TH and others are testing one of those!! PS: Of course, Jen et al have friends in high places. A well placed bribe, I mean, a shiny golden gift, could scuttle the whole thing and prevent any import…. Reply
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