Less experienced consumers may blame a memory kit for not working in a system. However, they fail to consider that the processor and motherboard are equally important. Memory speeds above the processor's default specification are not always plug-and-play, and it is good that manufacturers communicate this clearly to avoid consumer confusion and disappointment if a memory kit does not perform as advertised.
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TechieTwo MORE Jackpot Justice to encourage the incompetent and illiterate. If you don't understand JDEC DRAM standards, maybe you should educate yourself instead of blaming DRAM mfgs. for YOUR technical ignorance, 😮 Reply
Trake_17 TechieTwo said: MORE Jackpot Justice to encourage the incompetent and illiterate. If you don't understand JDEC DRAM standards, maybe you should educate yourself instead of blaming DRAM mfgs. for YOUR technical ignorance, 😮 Sounds a little like that too me too Reply
COLGeek Don't forget the previous conversation on this topic: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/you-can-now-file-your-g-skill-class-action-claim-to-get-a-cut-of-the-2-4-million-settlement-%E2%80%94-deceptive-marketing-class-action-now-accepting-payo.3893057/ Reply
Nate1994a Trake_17 said: Sounds a little like that too me too Same it really feels like that guy that sues over vanilla flavoring being used over vanilla in cheep snacks. Reply
Makaveli They are mad they only got $20-$25 do they know how class action works? Reply
Vanderlindemedia QVL is a real thing. You have to inspect if a motherboard is capable of running the sticks you intend to install. Because of that you will run into a kit that is unable to boot at advertised speeds, or the only safest or closest you can get is 2933MHz for example. It's mostly motherboard/ram kit combination, not the IMC of the CPU alone. I had a 2700X, that run perfectly fine with a 3200MHz kit, used to overclock up to 3600Mhz with no issues, but once the motherboard died (Faulty NIC of intel burned the whole thing down) the replacement board (X570F) refused to boot beyond 3133Mhz. I even threw AI at it to figure out what the culprit of this stuff is. Eventually i gave up, replaced the 2700X with a 5950X, threw the DDR4 away and replaced that with a 4x 32GB kit / 3600Mhz, dialed it in and called it a day. (Worked perfectly ouf of the box). Most people cram in XMP as well; where the system upon boot actually fails, and runs on fail-safe 2400Mhz complaining the performance is way below to as of what it should be. Reply
olaf Lawyers cache in , on stupid ppl … This fad that everyone can build a PC is over hyped some people should never touch anything more complicated then ballpoint pen Reply
thestryker An awful lot of folks calling people stupid here and apparently not able to engage critical thinking. I seem to recall a lot of that in prior threads pertaining to this too so it's not surprising. Can anyone name any other component one can buy for their system that requires overclocking to function as advertised (and still might not work)? Sure I think people should learn about their systems and how they function, but that doesn't excuse the way most memory is advertised. It should be made clear that the speeds are reliant on XMP/EXPO and isn't guaranteed to work. While the lawyers undoubtedly are the biggest direct beneficiary of this lawsuit adding transparency isn't a bad thing. FWIW modern QVLs are nigh worthless beyond knowing that a particular kit can work. Motherboard manufacturers use binned CPUs to make the lists so the speeds supported can easily be more aspirational than reality. Reply
vanadiel007 thestryker said: An awful lot of folks calling people stupid here and apparently not able to engage critical thinking. I seem to recall a lot of that in prior threads pertaining to this too so it's not surprising. Can anyone name any other component one can buy for their system that requires overclocking to function as advertised (and still might not work)? Sure I think people should learn about their systems and how they function, but that doesn't excuse the way most memory is advertised. It should be made clear that the speeds are reliant on XMP/EXPO and isn't guaranteed to work. While the lawyers undoubtedly are the biggest direct beneficiary of this lawsuit adding transparency isn't a bad thing. FWIW modern QVLs are nigh worthless beyond knowing that a particular kit can work. Motherboard manufacturers use binned CPUs to make the lists so the speeds supported can easily be more aspirational than reality. CPU's. They have base and boost speeds, but boost speed can only be reached with proper cooling and is an overclocking feature. On some OEM systems boost speeds are not reachable due to low profile cooling and /or restrictions on the VRM section. It's often advertised as "up to". Max Boost2Up to 5.2GHz 2.Max boost for AMD Ryzen processors is the maximum frequency achievable by a single core on the processor running a bursty single-threaded workload. Max boost will vary based on several factors, including, but not limited to: thermal paste; system cooling; motherboard design and BIOS; the latest AMD chipset driver; and the latest OS updates. GD-150. If the 2. is printed on the box it will be in extremely small letters… Reply
thestryker vanadiel007 said: CPU's. They have base and boost speeds, but boost speed can only be reached with proper cooling and is an overclocking feature. First of all boosting is not an overclock and secondly AMD/Intel do not advertise boost clock as the processor clock speed. These two things negate literally everything you're saying. vanadiel007 said: If the 2. is printed on the box it will be in extremely small letters… The boost clock isn't listed on the box. I have 4 generations worth of Intel CPU boxes and if there's a clock speed at all listed it's the base clock. While I don't have any AMD CPU boxes the last time someone tried claiming this nonsense I looked some up and from what I saw they don't do any differently than Intel. Reply
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