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bit_user Note: the embedded chart doesn't have a "zoom" button. If you click this one, you can zoom it to full size: The article said: Therefore, unless Intel plans to offer energy-efficient cores in its next Xeon CPU aimed at entry-level servers and workstations, we may be dealing with a very special processor that features 28 P-cores that is designed to beat all desktop-grade platforms in demanding applications. Don't go creating silly rumors! 99% likelihood this is just a Nova Lake with single compute tile. Especially at 95W!!! The article said: it should also be noted that 28 cores do not naturally derive from a 16P+32E desktop design and are impossible to derive from a notebook-grade 8P+16E design. How did you not get the memo that Nova Lake's die configuration is one of: 8P + 16E + 4LPE 2 * (8P + 16E) + 4LPE??? The first clearly shows how they arrive at 28 cores. Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-nova-lake-specs-leaked-up-to-52-cores-and-150w-of-tdp-for-intels-amd-zen-6-rival The article said: the abandoned Raptor Lake-32C, which featured an all-P-core design aimed at workstations and entry servers before being canceled. But, that would never have gone in a desktop socket!! It must've been planned to use the same socket as Xeon-W2400. Either that, or it was a 0P + 32E chip. That I could easily see slotting into LGA1700 and would make a lot of sense for light-duty servers. Reply
Gururu bit_user said: Note: the embedded chart doesn't have a "zoom" button. If you click this one, you can zoom it to full size: Don't go creating silly rumors! 99% likelihood this is just a Nova Lake with single compute tile. Especially at 95W!!! How did you not get the memo that Nova Lake's die configuration is one of: 8P + 16E + 4LPE 2 * (8P + 16E) + 4LPE??? The first clearly shows how they arrive at 28 cores. Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-nova-lake-specs-leaked-up-to-52-cores-and-150w-of-tdp-for-intels-amd-zen-6-rival But, that would never have gone in a desktop socket!! It must've been planned to use the same socket as Xeon-W2400. Either that, or it was a 0P + 32E chip. That I could easily see slotting into LGA1700 and would make a lot of sense for light-duty servers. Didn't Anton Shilov write this article? 😛 Reply
bit_user thestryker said: I think the article was referring to this which I don't recall ever seeing any real clarification on: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intels-unannounced-34-core-raptor-lake-cpus-displayed-on-wafer In that article, it says: "The die appears larger than the die that drops into the standard desktop PCs with the LGA 1700 socket, so it appears to be too large to fit inside the package for desktop PCs . That means this is likely a CPU destined for the workstation market. " So, it was some sort of HEDT or Xeon-W die, most likely. That's why I said it would never slot into LGA1700 and must've been destined for LGA4677. This article is specifically talking about Dunlow being LGA1954. So, there's no way it's 28 P-cores. Not in 95W. That's just crazy talk. Reply
bit_user Gururu said: Didn't Anton Shilov write this article? 😛 I think Anton doesn't track desktop PC products as well as he tracks silicon engineering. Like everyone, he has his niches and areas of interest. The fact that he didn't know about the single compute tile Nova Lake die configuration is understandable, from that perspective, but still something that should've been caught by an editor. Reply
Jaykihn0 Yeah, this is a standard Nova Lake -S 8+16+4 silicon stepping derivative. Reply
thestryker bit_user said: So, it was some sort of HEDT or Xeon-W die, most likely. That's why I said it would never slot into LGA1700 and must've been destined for LGA4677. It's a wafer full of EMR tiles, but at the time I don't believe it had been announced. That was just the only thing I could think of which ever carried the "RPL-S" title which had 3x cores. Reply
Stomx A: It is 8P + 16E + 4LPZ B: No it is 3P + 4B + 12E + 4LPE+14XP A: At the maximum it is 8P + 12E + 4LPE + 4Z B: As to the maximum then it is 3P + 4B + 12E + 4LPE+14XP+3P + 4B + 12E + 4LPE+14XP A: This is what I spent 3 years on and uncovered that in my PhD thesis. And do your math fool. B: And who are you then? Reply
usertests Stomx said: A: It is 8P + 16E + 4LPZ B: No it is 3P + 4B + 12E + 4LPE+14XP A: At the maximum it is 8P + 12E + 4LPE + 4Z B: As to the maximum then it is 3P + 4B + 12E + 4LPE+14XP+3P + 4B + 12E + 4LPE+14XP A: This is what I spent 3 years on and uncovered that in my PhD thesis. And do your math fool. B: And who are you then? C: Don't quit your day job! Reply
TerryLaze bit_user said: This article is specifically talking about Dunlow being LGA1954. So, there's no way it's 28 P-cores. Not in 95W. That's just crazy talk. I have no opinion either way but why is 95W such an issue for you?! It's entry level so it could be the equivalent of the -T desktop models, significantly lowered PBP to run cooler and be much more efficient (and you can still give them the same amount of power as the normal ones to get the same speed and inefficiency) . Reply
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