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bit_user I think readers should boycott news sites that do this. The solution to AI companies scraping their data is to publish with a license that forbids it, and then sue any AI providers who violate those terms. Yes, neither that surveillance nor litigation are cheap, but publishers should be able to pool their resources to support such activities. Reply
ezst036 This isn't exactly new. These websites were blocking the Wayback Machine before the rise of AI due to internet sleuths who would do diff compares over months to see how they changed their headlines and web content changes unattributed(key words changed, headlines altered, whole paragraphs gone without a public notation) while the sleuths noted that the changes that were happening were all on a strikingly one-sided note, politically. AI just gives them a much cleaner excuse for why they cover for their stealth edits instead of "I didn't want to get caught working for political gain". Reply
Arkitekt78 Haha… "news" sites. The only reason to block is they know they regularly publish false information and they are tired of being called out on it with evidence. Journalism is dead. Reply
bit_user ezst036 said: This isn't exactly new. Depends on which news sites you're talking about. Arkitekt78 said: Journalism is dead. Depends on which news sites you're talking about. Some people have a very strong motive to undermine public trust in journalists and journalism. It's not for no reason that a free press is in the first Amendment of the US Constitution. In the spirit of the quote: "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." …I'd say beware of people who tell you the media cannot be trusted. They just might be seeking to undermine the one thing that can hold them accountable. Reply
ezst036 bit_user said: Depends on which news sites you're talking about. Some people have a very strong motive to undermine public trust in journalists and journalism. It's not for no reason that a free press is in the first Amendment of the US Constitution. In the spirit of the quote: "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." …I'd say beware of people who tell you the media cannot be trusted. They just might be seeking to undermine the one thing that can hold them accountable. I agree with every word here. There's the big problem though, nobody has access to stealth edit (__________ news website) except for the news website themselves. To that extent, that makes the journalists themselves the saboteurs of that very journalism. The buck stop right there at their desk. (One of the sources listed in the Tom's Article is USA Today, so I'm just going to go with that one as an example, this is not an accusation) In other words, I can't see an argument to be made that it's the bloggers fault for noticing that USA Today did a stealth edit. That's USA Today's fault for stealth editing. They simply own it, they do. Its entirely controllable. If they don't want people to notice stealth edits, then they can cease and desist all stealth edits in the future, forever. That would go a long way toward restoring the lost trust that has taken place in journalism. I can tell you right now, even if I had the password and could do edits to the USA Today website, I would not do it. But I'm just saying. The organization itself owns this and they own their own failures, and off of the top of my head I cannot ever remember seeing a news report that "person name" was fired after being discovered stealth editing news articles. Now you know, you know they have logging. So they know who in their organizations are doing this editing. But if they can't have accountability, then trust is going to fall. Reply
thestryker bit_user said: I think readers should boycott news sites that do this. The solution to AI companies scraping their data is to publish with a license that forbids it, and then sue any AI providers who violate those terms. Yes, neither that surveillance nor litigation are cheap, but publishers should be able to pool their resources to support such activities. What the ai companies are doing likely is against the law already. So the question becomes as a publisher do you cut off the problem or do you spend tons of money and time in court to get compensation (and even if they do it still won't stop what's happening). It's all well and good to want the system to work, but we have way too much evidence showing it simply doesn't when you don't have a government willing to step in and do something. Pretty much every major tech driven service the last couple of decades has relied on exactly this. Legality simply doesn't matter if you're allowed to continue operating illegally and periodically write checks to make a nuisance go away. Reply
USAFRet thestryker said: What the ai companies are doing likely is against the law already. 1. Too big to fail. 2. Be good friends with the people that have the authority to allow you to bypass that 'law'. Reply
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