usertests Jabberwocky79 said: I'd be happy to upgrade to a (reliable) 14900K at some point. That's the thing, isn't it. Is the errata actually fixed or merely covered up with microcode patches (and subject to popping up again if there is a motherboard issue)? Yes, the physical vulnerability remains in the silicon , but it is effectively neutralized by software mitigations. The root cause of the instability is a clock tree circuit within the Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen Raptor Lake processors that is vulnerable to accelerated aging under elevated voltage and temperature . This hardware flaw cannot be removed from the physical chips. Reply
TerryLaze usertests said: That's the thing, isn't it. Is the errata actually fixed or merely covered up with microcode patches (and subject to popping up again if there is a motherboard issue)? Yes, the physical vulnerability remains in the silicon , but it is effectively neutralized by software mitigations. The root cause of the instability is a clock tree circuit within the Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen Raptor Lake processors that is vulnerable to accelerated aging under elevated voltage and temperature . This hardware flaw cannot be removed from the physical chips. With that logic you can't buy any new CPU at all!!! The exploding ryzens only got fixed by setting a limit in the agesa/bios, with the same logic there is nothing preventing any ryzen cpu from exploding at any mobo issue either. Reply
magbarn Yeah we're stuck with high RAM prices for at least half a decade or more so this is good news for people still running on Intel 14nm++++++ Reply
cyrusfox Raptor DDR4 capability shining through (As well as Arrow being lack luster outside 250/270 plus). Reply
usertests TerryLaze said: With that logic you can't buy any new CPU at all!!! The exploding ryzens only got fixed by setting a limit in the agesa/bios, with the same logic there is nothing preventing any ryzen cpu from exploding at any mobo issue either. If Raptor Lake ever reverts to its original behavior, how it was operating out in the open for over a year before being caught, for whatever reason (such as a flawed update by the motherboard manufacturer), then it will start to silently degrade. That's plainly worse than Ryzen failures caused by motherboard manufacturers setting high voltage/current limits not recommended by AMD. Reply
TerryLaze usertests said: If Raptor Lake ever reverts to its original behavior, how it was operating out in the open for over a year before being caught, for whatever reason (such as a flawed update by the motherboard manufacturer), then it will start to silently degrade. That's plainly worse than Ryzen failures caused by motherboard manufacturers setting high voltage/current limits not recommended by AMD. How is it worse?! Because you get to keep using your CPU until a convenient time to rma it?? Instead of having to deal with week long RMA as soon as it happens for your CPU and most probably for your mobo as well since the explosions usually damage the socket as well. Reply
NinoPino TerryLaze said: How is it worse?! Because you get to keep using your CPU until a convenient time to rma it?? Instead of having to deal with week long RMA as soon as it happens for your CPU and most probably for your mobo as well since the explosions usually damage the socket as well. If you cannot get the (huge) difference by yourself, it is useless to try to explain. Reply
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