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ezst036 Being truly Linux based, this little device is going to change everything. Reply
LordVile ezst036 said: Being truly Linux based, this little device is going to change everything. It’s really not though is it. It’s going to be 3x the price it should be, be terrible in terms of performance, not upgradable as a desktop PC which is wild and doesn’t run large titles. You might as well just buy a XSX or PS5 for 1/2 to 1/4 of the price. If they wanted ti improve Linux they’d release SteamOS as a functional and installable distribution you could install on any PC rather than a proprietary, overpriced box Reply
usertests LordVile said: You might as well just buy a XSX or PS5 for 1/2 to 1/4 of the price. Your imagination is running wild. Reply
TerryLaze LordVile said: If they wanted ti improve Linux they’d release SteamOS as a functional and installable distribution you could install on any PC rather than a proprietary, overpriced box There is nothing special about steamOS other than that it fully supports the steamdeck hardware. Steam already did all of the improvements to linux by helping proton and the whole translation layer thing. You can have a mini emulation linux distro like batocera now that supports steam because of that. Releasing steamOS would actually probably hurt linux because everybody would only use that due to brand recognition, lowering the interest in any other distro. Reply
LordVile usertests said: Your imagination is running wild. Valve stated they’d be price competitive with a SFF PC and not be sold at a loss which would put them north of $1000, add in the price increases since that then you’re talking anywhere from 1000-2000. The XSX retails for 600-650 new at the moment with the PS5 being similar meaning the steam machine is likely 2-3x more expensive than either, 4x when you buy used. Reply
LordVile TerryLaze said: There is nothing special about steamOS other than that it fully supports the steamdeck hardware. And the couch friendly, controller friendly OS which is significantly less work than other solutions. TerryLaze said: Steam already did all of the improvements to linux by helping proton and the whole translation layer thing. Which doesn’t solve how much of a PITA Linux can be and its barrier to entry. TerryLaze said: You can have a mini emulation linux distro like batocera now that supports steam because of that. See above points. TerryLaze said: Releasing steamOS would actually probably hurt linux because everybody would only use that due to brand recognition, lowering the interest in any other distro. Or it would serve as an entry point Reply
TerryLaze LordVile said: add in the price increases since that then you’re talking anywhere from 1000-2000. The whole reason for the delays is that they want to wait until prices are down again and they can sell at their proposed ~1k price. LordVile said: And the couch friendly, controller friendly OS That doesn't exist, steam big picture is not steamos and also available anytime and anywhere you have steam. If you drop down to linux/steamos you need to use the touchpads that simulate a mouse. LordVile said: Which doesn’t solve how much of a PITA Linux can be and its barrier to entry. A standalone SteamOS will have to be installed, that's the same amount of barrier of entry and PITA as bazzite, or any other linux OS that comes preconfigured with steam. LordVile said: Or it would serve as an entry point To steam?! Yes, it will. Reply
LordVile TerryLaze said: The whole reason for the delays is that they want to wait until prices are down again and they can sell at their proposed ~1k price. Which makes no sense at all becaure prices won’t be down for at least another year and the performance will just be worse competitively. Also the units they have already would have been built on older pricing. TerryLaze said: That doesn't exist, steam big picture is not steamos and also available anytime and anywhere you have steam. And steam big picture isn’t the same as steamos. TerryLaze said: If you drop down to linux/steamos you need to use the touchpads that simulate a mouse. A standalone SteamOS will have to be installed, that's the same amount of barrier of entry and PITA as bazzite, or any other linux OS that comes preconfigured with steam. Not really, SteamOS is preconfigured and does have many of the usual Linux headaches. You’re being disingenuous. TerryLaze said: To steam?! Yes, it will. To Linux, steam is an aggressively anti consumer de facto monopoly on PC there’s no real market share to gain. Reply
TerryLaze LordVile said: Which makes no sense at all becaure prices won’t be down for at least another year and the performance will just be worse competitively. Also the units they have already would have been built on older pricing. They HAVE units????? Other than a few prototypes (if it wasn't just the one) that they showed how do you know that they do? LordVile said: And steam big picture isn’t the same as steamos. Your point was that steamos is controller controllable, which it isn't, no matter what you call it. LordVile said: Not really, SteamOS is preconfigured and does have many of the usual Linux headaches. You’re being disingenuous. It's only preconfigured for the steamdeck, if they release it standalone it will still only be preconfigured for the steamdeck (and maybe the steammachine if it is out by then) You are being the one that is disingenuous. LordVile said: To Linux, steam is an aggressively anti consumer de facto monopoly on PC there’s no real market share to gain. What?! Did this make sense in your head?! The steamdeck/machine, while being PCs ,are marketed as consoles (like) systems to people that would never buy a PC but would buy a console, that's a lot of untapped market share there. Reply
LordVile TerryLaze said: They HAVE units????? Other than a few prototypes (if it wasn't just the one) that they showed how do you know that they do? Contracts are negotiated before release or production dates, as it was due to launch this year contracts for component pricing would have been negotiated last year. Getting them produced and reestocking from that initial order is the expensive part. TerryLaze said: Your point was that steamos is controller controllable, which it isn't, no matter what you call it. One of the points, the point was it’s couch friendly which big picture mode is until you have to leave steam or have to update the system or it launches not in big picture mode or something else takes you out of it. TerryLaze said: It's only preconfigured for the steamdeck, if they release it standalone it will still only be preconfigured for the steamdeck (and maybe the steammachine if it is out by then) You are being the one that is disingenuous. The entire point is that they could release the steam machine version. You’re pretending that Linux doesn’t have accessibility issues. Unless you’re saying that they’re just going to run the SteamOS version that runs on the deck with no changes? TerryLaze said: What?! Did this make sense in your head?! The steamdeck/machine, while being PCs ,are marketed as consoles (like) systems to people that would never buy a PC but would buy a console, that's a lot of untapped market share there. And it’s not anywhere near price competitive with consoles. Why would anyone buy a steam machine for $1500 when a more powerful console that’s over 5 years old is 650 or less? Ontop of that the benefits of being a PC like being upgradable aren’t present. This is a system for people who have a steam library and want a secondary PC. If it was console price I’d get one to replace the PC and Xbox Series X plugged into the downstairs TV but ultimately for anything more than console price I could just buy a GPU and it would outperform the machine. Reply
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